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An open letter to Enfield Councillors: a little kindness

scan0006Dear Councillors

Last summer I wrote to the Mayor about Southgate Town Hall about Betty Wright (nee Walton) a lady who had written to me via the Palmers Green Jewel in the North website with a unique connection with the Town Hall. She was born there in 1927 and lived there until she married in 1951 – her father was fireman and Mace bearer and she had many happy memories from that time. I believe George Walton may appear in one of the pictures in your Enfield history display upstairs at the Dugdale Centre.

Cllr Cranfield kindly sent my letter on to a number of other colleagues on Enfield Council, saying at the time that she felt that it was a reasonable request. But despite having sent various reminders to the Mayor’s office and others, I have never had any kind of response or acknowledgment.

I fully understand that Enfield has some very serious issues to deal with and this was never going to be a number one priority. However, while press this year and last indicated that Town Hall had been sold, I understand now from the local papers that in fact the sale was only completed very recently indeed.

I had originally requested that you give Palmers Greeners one last opportunity to view their town hall before it goes into private hands. I am no longer asking this, though of course, given Palmers Green Jewel in the North’s emphasis on history and people and valuing the local area, I would love it to happen.

But it seems to me that you or Council staff might still be in a position to use your good offices to grant Betty Wright and her surviving siblings the opportunity to view her old home once more before the work begins in earnest.

It is something she would dearly love to happen. Amidst all the business and complexities and difficulties of Council life, it would be an act of kindness on your part, which I hope you will be in a position to agree to or facilitate.

With kind regards

Sue Beard

Palmers Green Jewel in the North

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Art and Culture Community Film History Palmers Green Planning and open spaces Shops

Terminal vests – the story of Grouts on film

If you have only lived in Palmers Green for a few years, you might have considered Grouts to be a wonder of PG’s past that you would hear about but never see. Til now!

Veteran film maker David ‘Tec’ Evans visited the Palmers Green institution in 1997, and made this amazing 15 minute film, now viewable on YouTube.

Grouts first opened its doors in 1914 on the corner of Green Lanes and Devonshire Road, when the block itself was only two years old. The premises were rented by Alfred Grout from a Miss Lilley for the princely sum of £130 a year.

Over the years Grouts built up a reputation for selling items which couldn’t be found elsewhere. There were 9 branches in all, including another in Palmers Green at 48 the Promenade, opposite St John’s church.

The film shows the shop’s extensive wares – an Aladdin’s Cave of corsets and control pants, towels, handkerchiefs, woolly hats, straw hats, darning wool, tea towels, ribbon, bolts of cloth, housecoats and pinafores.

The last owner was Alfred Grout’s granddaughter Sue Whittemore, who ran the shop with her husband Phil, a former pastry chef. In the film, the proud and entertaining Mrs Whitimore regales viewers with tales of the odd requests she received from customers, including ‘terminal’ (thermal!) vests, and tells of life in the building – her grandfather’s family and most of the staff lived upstairs. The job of a shop assistant in Palmers Green was highly prestigious in Grouts’ heyday, and she recalls stalwarts Miss Warren and Miss Edwards who worked in the shop from a few years after it opened until the 60s and 70s.

Perhaps as famous as Grouts’ wares was its cash railway, The Gipe. First installed in 1927 it was used until the 1950s, though Sue Whitimore says that a lot of people think that it was in operation for a lot longer, perhaps because the wires and fittings were kept. When the shop closed in 2002, it was believed to have been the oldest cash railway remaining in situ – it was removed and taken to the East Anglia Transport Museum in near Lowestoft.

Highly recommended.

  • Does anyone remember the Whittemores, Miss Warren or Miss Edwards? Perhaps you worked in Grouts yourself? Tell us more…!   

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Art and Culture Community History Palmers Green Shops

Still hair today: Mr Mann’s artistic English salon

We are getting used to constant change in Palmers Green. Shops come and go. Nail bars and betting shops seem to spring up overnight

But delve further and you will find that there are still a few shops in exactly the same use in 2014 as they were one hundred years ago. We have now lost C A Phillips art shop and picture framers, run by the same family for 94 years until it closed in 2012. But honourable survivors include Seward’s funeral directors and WH Smith, both still in exactly the same premises they were in the early days of Palmers Greens Edwardian expansion and in exactly the same line of business.

Andreas Sallas’s salon at 480 Green Lanes is another survivor. There’s been a hair salon on the same site, opposite St John’s Church, since before the First World War.

Andreas SallasAndreas bought the business in the 1970s and held on to its fixtures and fittings including the original ironwork and bowed windows until the shop was hit by a car some years ago. The driver was uninsured and Andreas’ insurance company refused to pay for restoration but Andreas still keeps the interior simple and classy in keeping with the shop’s old dignity. His 40 years in business means that many of the boys whose hair he first cut in the 70s now bring their own children in.

In the corner of Andreas’s salon there is a picture taken in the 1920s of a man and a boy standing proudly in front of the shop, then called Mann’s, the English Hairdresser. Andreas’ theory is that the unusual stress on English was because of the war – Mann was a common German name, and foreign sounding businesses could be vulnerable in the atmosphere of patriotic fervour.

The picture was presented by Mrs Elizabeth Hodgson, granddaughter of the original owner Frank John Mann, now living in Barnet but with vivid memories of her family’s time in Palmers Green.

“My grandfather, Frank John Mann lived in Hoppers Road and his hairdresser shop, now 480 Green Lanes, was formerly 52 ‘Promenade’ ” remembers Elizabeth.

Mann shop“My grandfather worked almost to his death in 1959/60.  The shop had an interesting frontage with wrought iron – the sign above the door read “Haircutting Shampooing Singeing Shaving Saloon’.”

“The unusual thing about this shop is that it also served as my grandfather’s studio as he was a prolific artist. Customers took in their photos or pictures they wanted turned into a painting, I have 9 of them – 7 on the walls and 2 in the cupboard (they are of me as a young child!).  One is dated 1947 and all are signed “Mann”.

“Frank Mann was married to Florence May and they had two sons (both now deceased) – my father, Leonard Francis (born 1910) and his younger brother Jack.  My father became known as “Bill” and he played rugby (Saracens) and sang in choirs etc., later he held a senior post with the Northmet, which became Eastern Electricity and was based at Northmet House (formerly Arnos Grove in Southgate) for some years – I have memories of Christmas parties there and the impressive staircase.  I have a couple of slides of the work being carried out on the frescoes on the ceilings (I hope they are still there).”

Does anyone have Frank Mann’s pictures still hanging in their house, or remember visiting for a short back and sides? Elizabeth would love to know.

*This  article first appeared in the Palmers Green Life magazine

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A tale or two of Palmers Green

Palmers_green_tales2There’s a rare chance to see some old Palmers Green footage this evening at the quarterly meeting of the Fox Lane and District Residents Association.

Jenny Bourke from the Palmers Green Tales oral history project team  will be showing some films of old Palmers Green and explaining more about the project, which aims to capture the memories of local people.

The evening will begin with normal FLDRA business at 7.45pm in Burford Church Hall (entrance in Burford Gardens). If you are not a member of FLDRA and care about your local area, why not pop in and join?

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Art and Culture Community Enfield History Palmers Green Southgate

Vane search ended

The Weld Chapel, demolished to make way for Christ Church Southgate. Image (c) Enfield Local Studies Archive
The Weld Chapel, demolished to make way for Christ Church Southgate. Image (c) Enfield Local Studies Archive

A little bit of Palmers Green and Southgate’s history has reemerged in Sundridge Hertfordshire.

In our section on this website titled survivals, oddities and curiosities  we told of the story of the weather vane which sat on a garage in the north circular road, on the site of McIntoshes old forge. The weather vane had originally graced the Weld chapel (built 1615) . The chapel was demolished in 1862 to make way for Christ Church, Southgate, and the vane had sat atop one of the Walker family’s barns until it was brought back to the forge in the 1920s.

Stephens Engineering moved to the forge site in 1968 and remained there for forty years before relocating five years ago. There were fears that the vane had been lost.

Not so. Engineer Bill Stephens has now restored and repainted it, and it now sits atop his new premises in Thundridge Business park. Bill welcomes anyone who would like to see it to pop along. More information about the story of the vane here.

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Art and Culture Community Enfield Green Palmers Green History Palmers Green Planning and open spaces

This is the sound of the suburbs

waterways1What does Palmers Green sound like?

One answer is contained in a new sound map produced by a fascinating London website, London Sound Survey. The map pays tribute to Beck’s iconic map of the underground, but instead of tube lines, the focus is on waterways, or more accurately, the sounds around London’s Waterways, including the New River at Palmers Green, and at other sites as the 400 year old man-made water course makes its way into the city.

In the Palmers Green recording, taken at the New River by Oakthorpe Road in September 2011,  you can hear traffic, children playing outside the mosque, birdsong, airplane drone, and in a back garden a mastiff begins barking.

Elsewhere on the site there is a two-minute recording of Green Lanes at Palmers Green – mostly traffic, speech and the obligatory car horn.  The sounds are somehow soothing, and make you wonder what Palmers Green might sound like in 50 years time and how strange the sounds might be to our descendents.

The map is part of a much wider website dealing with sound in the capital – now and in the past. There are some wonderful things contained therein and I really can’t recommend it highly enough.

One to explore